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LiquidMetal
LiquidMetal		 Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 3:44 PM EDT
Okay, so here it is — the presence of John Connor’s new love interest in Leven Rambin, who plays a girl name Riley Apparently that wasn’t something the producers of the show came up with; instead, it was dictated to them by the suits at FOX. Yup, you heard that right — John is getting a human girlfriend in TSCC, and it’s because FOX wanted him to have one. I guess it was too much that FOX didn’t try to turn the show into some 90210 wannabe, but whatever, FOX, you’ve done so well with genre shows so far, right? You MUST know what you’re doing. (ahem).

Riley will not be privy to John’s special burden.

John’s new human girl, Riley was named after FOX chief Kevin Reilly, apparently. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 3:47 PM EDT
"Okay, so here it is — the presence of John Connor’s new love interest in Leven Rambin, who plays a girl name Riley Apparently that wasn’t something the producers of the show came up with; instead, it was dictated to them by the suits at FOX. Yup, you heard that right — John is getting a human girlfriend in TSCC, and it’s because FOX wanted him to have one. I guess it was too much that FOX didn’t try to turn the show into some 90210 wannabe, but whatever, FOX, you’ve done so well with genre shows so far, right? You MUST know what you’re doing. (ahem).

Riley will not be privy to John’s special burden.

John’s new human girl, Riley was named after FOX chief Kevin Reilly, apparently."
I guess FOX was afraid about the whole John and Cameron Relationship thing. So they wanted to get rid of that by adding a love interest who is human instead of Cybernetic.

I just hope they don't make this show all lovey dovey like Warner Bros did with Smallville. (Why can't Lana just DIE already. It's so annoying.)

All I say is that FOX better be carefull. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
AverageJo
AverageJo		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 3:51 PM EDT
"John’s new human girl, Riley was named after FOX chief Kevin Reilly, apparently."
Somehow I'm picturing a kind of insufferable, John Cleese like executive casually demanding that a new character WILL be named after himself :-)

(OK, I'm sure Kevin Reilly is not at all like that) 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Gusar
Gusar		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:05 PM EDT
Hmm, the impression I got from what I read is that Josh had plans to add someone "normal" (not a time traveler or robot) all along. That this someone be a girl was the only thing Fox requested. So this wasn't something that was entirely forced upon the TSCC writers as you seem to imply. Again, that's my impression. Do you find this valuable?    
aceplace57
aceplace57		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:06 PM EDT
Interesting that Buffy had a bf named Riley for a season. Wasn't that a fox show too?

I'm glad John will be with a real woman. Jonesing after a metal robot was a little freaky for me. Besides John needs to enjoy life while the world is still normal. It's sort of difficult to have fun in a world where most of mankind is dead and all the cities are destroyed. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
LiquidMetal
LiquidMetal		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:16 PM EDT
"Hmm, the impression I got from what I read is that Josh had plans to add someone "normal" (not a time traveler or robot) all along. That this someone be a girl was the only thing Fox requested. So this wasn't something that was entirely forced upon the TSCC writers as you seem to imply. Again, that's my impression."
Your are correct. Josh wanted to add someone "normal".

The Fox suits wanted it to be girl, and to be a love interest, and to be named Riley. Remember the original name was to be "Becky" but Fox changed that.

I didn't mean to imply that Fox forced a "Riley" character, but rather that Fox forced it be a love interest, which was not envisioned the TSCC producers. Do you find this valuable?    
Gusar
Gusar		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:16 PM EDT
"Wasn't that a fox show too?"
Buffy was the other way around - a Fox show that aired on WB (whereas here we have a WB show that airs on Fox).


As for this whole thing, John Wirth was talking about "triangles". I'm guessing we might see some "jealousy" from Cameron, or at least Cameron being overly protective of John with regards to Riley. Could be interesting. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
KrelleK

KrelleK		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:21 PM EDT
"I guess FOX was afraid about the whole John and Cameron Relationship thing. So they wanted to get rid of that by adding a love interest who is human instead of Cybernetic.

I just hope they don't make this show all lovey dovey like Warner Bros did with Smallville. (Why can't Lana just DIE already. It's so annoying.)

All I say is that FOX better be carefull."
Why are they afraid of the John/Cameron thing, cannot see any problem in that, maybe it would a bit of a bit unique/an odd, but sweet from POV 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
KrelleK

KrelleK		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:23 PM EDT
"I guess FOX was afraid about the whole John and Cameron Relationship thing. So they wanted to get rid of that by adding a love interest who is human instead of Cybernetic.

I just hope they don't make this show all lovey dovey like Warner Bros did with Smallville. (Why can't Lana just DIE already. It's so annoying.)

All I say is that FOX better be carefull."
But why did they not continue with Cheri Westin then? 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
HK103
HK103		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:23 PM EDT
"As for this whole thing, John Wirth was talking about "triangles". I'm guessing we might see some "jealousy" from Cameron, or at least Cameron being overly protective of John with regards to Riley. Could be interesting."
Cameron can't get jealous. So whatever tension that's there it's all how John reacts to her. Do you find this valuable?    
HK103
HK103		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:25 PM EDT
"I guess FOX was afraid about the whole John and Cameron Relationship thing. So they wanted to get rid of that by adding a love interest who is human instead of Cybernetic.
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I don't know about that.

TVGuide: But how about some hot man-on-machine action, guys? We can't be the only ones who have noticed the tension between John and metal-maid Cameron (Summer Glau). Wirth teased: "Every interesting relationship I've been in has been a triangle." Do you find this valuable?    
KrelleK

KrelleK		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:26 PM EDT
"But why did they not continue with Cheri Westin then?"
Maybe it would evolve into a kinda Romeo/Juliet relationship, with a possible very strict father or something, but what I am trying to say is, there was allready a girl that could fill this place, and anyway hopes this Reily girl will befriend Cammy girl, I think she needs it, her first possible friend commited suicide 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
HK103
HK103		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 4:28 PM EDT
"The Fox suits wanted it to be girl, and to be a love interest, and to be named Riley. Remember the original name was to be "Becky" but Fox changed that.

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I highly doubt Fox wanted her named after their own execs or really that this Riley person wanted the dubious honor of having a girl named after him. Actually it sounds more like the writers said, "Hey, your idea, we'll name her after you." 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Gusar
Gusar		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 5:03 PM EDT
"But why did they not continue with Cheri Westin then?"
Cheri showed no interest in John and was perceived by viewers as boring and/or annoying. I could say I belong to those people. I think someone with active interest in John is a lot more interesting than Cheri. Do you find this valuable?    
T-1976
T-1976		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 5:42 PM EDT
Perhaps they knew that the John/Cameron angle wouldnt be accepted by everyone and didnt want the show to sink because of it.

There are still a lot of fans who dont want a John/Cameron relationship........and indeed, it is still a bit odd to me, even though ive been open to it. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Schmacky
Schmacky		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 5:44 PM EDT
"But why did they not continue with Cheri Westin then?"
I was thinking the exact same thing. I hope they don't drop her entirely, I would like to atleast know a little bit more about her... why her father is overly protective and such. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
ehonda

ehonda		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 6:40 PM EDT
I can't recall exactly, but wasn't there some interview w/Josh Friedman talking about when the Riley character would first appear? I remember it might have been as soon as episode 2.

But if she appears that soon, then that means they've probably got the Cameron gone bad issue resolved by episode 1, since it's unlikely John would be heading back to school if they hadn't taken care of that. Do you find this valuable?    
Schmacky
Schmacky		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 6:42 PM EDT
"I can't recall exactly, but wasn't there some interview w/Josh Friedman talking about when the Riley character would first appear? I remember it might have been as soon as episode 2.

But if she appears that soon, then that means they've probably got the Cameron gone bad issue resolved by episode 1, since it's unlikely John would be heading back to school if they hadn't taken care of that. "
Yeah, he said they compromised on episode 2. Do you find this valuable?    
BattleJuice
BattleJuice		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 6:50 PM EDT
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Riley will not be privy to John’s special burden.

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But will she be privy to his "Special Purpose?"

Okay, I think the biggest demographic missing from the show was women. I personally don't know any who were watching it on a regular basis (and that's from an ad hoc tally from work).

The show definately lacked in romance - which the first movie certainly did not.

It probably sucks getting handed a mandatory character assignment, but I bet the writers can handle it. Besides, a robot /human love triangle sounds kinda cool.


(Special Purpose is from "The Jerk" ) Do you find this valuable?    
ehonda

ehonda		 RE: Why Add Riley to the Cast?
Jul 15 2008, 6:55 PM EDT
"Yeah, he said they compromised on episode 2. "
Sorry if it's been mentioned already, but is the season premier 1 or 2 hours long?

Regardless of that, having Riley appear that early probably means the Cam issue from the premiere is resolved, and that would pretty much go along with what's been said about Season 2: The show is going to be less serialized and episodes more self contained.

I'm just assuming that if you've got Riley involved, then you've got John back in school which means things should be hunky dory and they've gotten over Cameron going bad on them. Do you find this valuable?    
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