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LiquidMetal |
TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 14 2008, 8:20 PM EDT Fans should expect a more straightforward and less serialized "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" on Fox next season. Executive producer John Wirth said episodes this fall will be more self-contained than its decently rated, if rocky, freshman season. 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Krazykaleb |
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Jul 14 2008, 8:25 PM EDT "Fans should expect a more straightforward and less serialized "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" on Fox next season.Does that mean less cliff hangers? Is that what there getting at? Do you find this valuable? |
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gamer_1001 gamer_1001 |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 14 2008, 8:39 PM EDT ...does that mean there are filler episodes? My main knock against episodic TV shows is because the writers could just dump fillers just to pass the time. Do you find this valuable? |
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trigger_happy14 |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 14 2008, 8:49 PM EDT Don't worry! Having more standalone episodes doesn't mean that they won't be the same level of quality as serialized ones. The problem with Season 1's episodes was that they were so connected to each other that new viewers became lost, hence the drop in ratings. So, having more standalone episodes should definitely help with the confusion factor and help more people get more into the show. But I agree with you gamer, no filler episodes! I hate those... 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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intrepid |
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Jul 14 2008, 8:54 PM EDT that’s ok but we still need a story arc, standalones don’t usually advance the story along, too many and things bog down! Do you find this valuable? |
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Krazykaleb |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 14 2008, 9:06 PM EDT "Don't worry! Having more standalone episodes doesn't mean that they won't be the same level of quality as serialized ones. The problem with Season 1's episodes was that they were so connected to each other that new viewers became lost, hence the drop in ratings. So, having more standalone episodes should definitely help with the confusion factor and help more people get more into the show.I'm glad that there won't be cliff hangers like 24. Means I can miss somting now and then and still be in the loop. Sort of like Watching Firefly. Do you find this valuable? |
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Krazykaleb |
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Jul 14 2008, 9:08 PM EDT "I'm glad that there won't be cliff hangers like 24. Means I can miss somting now and then and still be in the loop. Sort of like Watching Firefly."like I said before! Balance is needed and this show has great balance. Do you find this valuable? |
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Kobe101 |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 14 2008, 9:10 PM EDT So whats going on here? Do you find this valuable? |
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IntrepidVillain |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 15 2008, 12:43 AM EDT I think it will be more like Star Trek and Stargate where, rather than exploring a single story arc and exploring many different sub-plots in each of the episodes, they will explore a single sub-plot in one whole episode and possibly have a few episodes in-between exploring other sub-plots, before coming back to it 3 or 4 episodes later. This is what I was thinking they should do in Season 2 after I finished watching Season 1, as they were too tightly connected but yet it didn't feel like 24. I heard they'd done episode 5 before episode 3. One thing they could do in a less serialised season is that in episodes 1 and 2 they could have the Connors just managing to escape from Cameron and get her off their backs. Episode 3 could start with a completely different sub-plot. It could have future war sequences, or may have Cameron in it (the present), exploring something that happened prior to the explosion. Maybe it explores both Cameron's present and future and gives us a background, possibly helping explain why she is in the state of mind she will be in after the explosion. After they've finished exploring Cameron's background in episodes 3 and 4 they will return us to the Cameron-chasing Connor sub-plot and will show them recapturing her. I'm not saying this is something they've done, but something they could do in a less serialised Season 2. They don't have to have consecutive episodes showing them running away from and then recapturing Cameron. They could spread it out. Just like in Star Trek Enterprise, they're not always hunting for the Xindi superweapon and in Stargate it's not always the Wraith or the Ori they are fighting. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IntrepidVillain |
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Jul 15 2008, 12:56 AM EDT (continued...) Usually in non-serialised series, they say "to be continued...." when there's a cliffhanger at the end of an episode to tell us that the next episode continues the sub-plot immediately. When there isn't a cliffhanger or where the initial problem was resolved, there is no "to be continued...." The to-be-continued's were implied in Season 1 and in 24. It would be nice, after the introduction in Season 1, to have episode preludes/prologues that introduce us to the theme of the episode. I would also like to see episode titles as well, just like in Star Trek and Stargate. The "previously on Sarah Connor Chronicles" sequences should also include only the stuff from episodes that explore related sub-plots, especially when the episode is about the main sub-plot. So if they temporarily take us away from the Cameron-chasing Connor sub-plot in episodes 3 and 4, they can include stuff from episodes 1 and 2 in the "previously on Sarah Connor Chronicles" sequence when they bring us back to it in episode 5. That's just one example (based on what I was suggesting in my last post) on what they could do. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Krazykaleb |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 15 2008, 1:07 AM EDT "(continued...)Just like on Previously on Lost Do you find this valuable? |
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Kobe101 |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 15 2008, 1:18 AM EDT Thanks for the explanation! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Thecolours |
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Jul 15 2008, 2:20 AM EDT Having only 13 episodes to tell an incredible complex storyline is hard enough. But to add self contained stories in this shorten season may dirupt the shows flow. Other scifi shows like Lost and X-files can get away with stand alone episodes, because they had much longer seasons to tell their stories in. TSCC, on the other hand, would be better served to have a tight, linear storyline, rather then verging off randomly in certain epidsodes. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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HK103 |
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Jul 15 2008, 3:27 AM EDT I hope this doesn't mean they are dumbing things down for people who didn't get it. Do you find this valuable? |
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Schmacky |
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Jul 15 2008, 3:32 AM EDT "I hope this doesn't mean they are dumbing things down for people who didn't get it."I don't think they're going to dumb anything down, but last season was a bit confusing and convoluted 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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HK103 |
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Jul 15 2008, 3:35 AM EDT "I don't think they're going to dumb anything down, but last season was a bit confusing and convoluted"In which way? I thought it was good the way it was... 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Schmacky |
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Jul 15 2008, 3:42 AM EDT "In which way? I thought it was good the way it was..."The whole storyline on the jumper.. it was so ... odd and confusing. And to be honest, there's other stuff but I can't think of it right now because I'm exhausted and really should be sleeping. But, it's like you had to watch the episodes more than once to really get it and it wasn't completely clear for first-time viewing and that might be what they're going to try and change. You want a show like this to make you think but you don't want it to make you think TOO much where you're slightly confused by the end of the episode. That's a negative feeling you don't want an audience to feel. Rather you want them to be intrigued but not confused. Do you find this valuable? |
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HK103 |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 15 2008, 3:47 AM EDT So basically dumbing things down. I liked having to think "TOO much". The jumper thing was solvable, the rest of it just ended up on the cutting floor. If this means they'll try to avoid things they can't later conclude, then I'm all for it. But no to dumbing things down. I thought the ep. 6 misery with the room and the music was excellent, big NO if this are the things we are going to loose. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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KrelleK KrelleK |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 15 2008, 3:59 AM EDT "Don't worry! Having more standalone episodes doesn't mean that they won't be the same level of quality as serialized ones. The problem with Season 1's episodes was that they were so connected to each other that new viewers became lost, hence the drop in ratings. So, having more standalone episodes should definitely help with the confusion factor and help more people get more into the show.well Iwould say that a single filler episode in angel, was very good, the one called Waiting in the wings, do any of you not agree. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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intrepid |
RE: TSCC Episodes Less Serialized
Jul 15 2008, 8:58 AM EDT "The whole storyline on the jumper.. it was so ... odd and confusing. And to be honest, there's other stuff but I can't think of it right now because I'm exhausted and really should be sleeping. But, it's like you had to watch the episodes more than once to really get it and it wasn't completely clear for first-time viewing and that might be what they're going to try and change.The convoluted episodes are the ones we talk and dissect the most! if they are straightforward and boring I cant see how that’s going to help, we might as well turn into the Supernatural Wiki and talk about how good-looking the actors are!…………………….well more than we do now I mean. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
