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Chopped_Liver
Chopped_Liver
Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 1:38 AM EDT
Headey's portrayal of Sarah Connor has not yet match the iconic figure that Linda Hamilton created. This character needs to be strengthened in Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles or the show will suffer. Physically powerful and mentally focused Linda Hamilton is hard to beat as Sarah Connor in the Terminator movies. Josh Friedman needs to work on Headey's look and bring out a more rounded character for this role to succeed.

Check out my profile page for comparison photos of Heady and Hamilton (http://sarahconnor.wetpaint.com/account/Chopped_Liver)
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Chopped_Liver
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RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 1:43 AM EDT
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GoldenBuffy
GoldenBuffy
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 2:43 AM EDT
I agree. L.H. did set the bar HIGH. She is Sarah Connor and no one IMHO can come close. It took me a while to warm up to Lena but I'm almost there, about 95% of the way. They do need to make her tougher. I understand her no longer smoking, trying to avoid cancer and stuff, but they need to build her up some more. But like I said, no one can top Linda. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Schmacky
Schmacky
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 2:56 AM EDT
"I agree. L.H. did set the bar HIGH. She is Sarah Connor and no one IMHO can come close. It took me a while to warm up to Lena but I'm almost there, about 95% of the way. They do need to make her tougher. I understand her no longer smoking, trying to avoid cancer and stuff, but they need to build her up some more. But like I said, no one can top Linda."
I'm thinking we might see a difference in season 2. Lena said she was working on it.
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RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 3:05 AM EDT
"I agree. L.H. did set the bar HIGH. She is Sarah Connor and no one IMHO can come close. It took me a while to warm up to Lena but I'm almost there, about 95% of the way. They do need to make her tougher. I understand her no longer smoking, trying to avoid cancer and stuff, but they need to build her up some more. But like I said, no one can top Linda."
agreed with build her up more, they should start with the clothes. LH had paramilitary looking clothes while LH hmmmmmm both their initials r LH *insert F-word here*...... (yes i just realize that now)
any who, linda had paramilitary looking clothes while lena dresses to look pretty. its rather hard to take lena as seriously when ur busy looking @ her curves instead of her pistol.
another more difficult point would be linda could swear in the movie but i dont think lena can on a rated 14 (its rated 14 in canada, right?) tv show
in the show (this is probably not lena's fault) sarah looks and acts too emotional and so she loses her focus (like when she had that "not a date" with andy, she didnt even pay attention to the computer setup), her dialog also reflects that

any who, lena's a good actress but she's trying to measure up to the original, thats gotta be hard
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Schmacky
Schmacky
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 3:19 AM EDT
"agreed with build her up more, they should start with the clothes. LH had paramilitary looking clothes while LH hmmmmmm both their initials r LH *insert F-word here*...... (yes i just realize that now)
any who, linda had paramilitary looking clothes while lena dresses to look pretty. its rather hard to take lena as seriously when ur busy looking @ her curves instead of her pistol.
another more difficult point would be linda could swear in the movie but i dont think lena can on a rated 14 (its rated 14 in canada, right?) tv show
in the show (this is probably not lena's fault) sarah looks and acts too emotional and so she loses her focus (like when she had that "not a date" with andy, she didnt even pay attention to the computer setup), her dialog also reflects that

any who, lena's a good actress but she's trying to measure up to the original, thats gotta be hard"
With the clothes, I think that's a little stretch. Where do you think Sarah from T2 got those clothes? They were on the run from both the authorities and the T-1000. Knowing Sarah, she probably had some "work clothes" in the safe house. The movie only lasted a few days, Sarah was not trying to act like a normal person with a normal family and trying to be under the radar. The Sarah in the show is doing that. Wouldn't people start thinking it's weird that this woman is always wearing paramilitary clothing? It'd look... well, weird. She needs to blend in. And she can be the mother of all destiny and kick ass and be very focused and still give a crap about her appearance. I actually think they've done a good job (not Lena, she doesn't have a choice of wardrobe) with the clothing style. It has the "paramilitary" feel without being overly military. And when she did go on a mission (with Derek), she dressed more appropriate for that.

For some reason, the Sarah in the show has gotten some slack for going on the "date" with Andy. She's a woman, she's got womanly wiles (I always think of Nathan Fillion when I say/hear womanly wiles) and she uses it to her advantage. If you didn't notice, right off the bat Sarah said no to Andy's proposal. She wasn't interested. And then she realized, "Hmm, I can get close to him if he thinks I like him." And built off of that.

I'm not saying Lena is doing a better job than Linda did. I took me a LONG time to get used to Lena but I'm warming up and it's just something one needs to get used to. Sarah in the movies are written differently because they're movies, fast paced and the character isn't explored in as much detail as it can be in the show. Therefore, the portrayals will reflect that and be different.
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RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 3:31 AM EDT
o well.... hmmm that shut me up pretty good hahaha Do you find this valuable?    
Schmacky
Schmacky
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 3:34 AM EDT
"o well.... hmmm that shut me up pretty good hahaha"
Yeah? Right on heh :P

Nah I'm kidding, it's good to poke holes in other people's logic. It's what makes the world go round :P
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HK103
HK103
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 5:25 AM EDT
I think the slightly psycho Sarah Connor from T2 would not be good in a TV series on a weekly basis. Besides I think she was in a particular spot in T2 and people are wrong to think that that's how she would be well after those events.

Anyway I think this has little to do with who the better actress is and everything to do with people clinging to the original simply because it's the original..
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 9:24 AM EDT
And it's Lena Headey by a knock out!!

Seriously, I think Lena is starting to flesh out Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor a lot more. Or maybe we're seeing what Sarah could have been if she was less crazy from all the crap she's had to go through and the truth she's kept bottled up.

The only reason we didn't see Sarah Connor in T3 was because Linda Hamilton said that if James Cameron wasn't involved then "no thanks." I think that says a lot about James as a director and writer even if they were going through a messy divorce.
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d0x360

d0x360
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 9:55 AM EDT
Funny if she said that because James said he didnt want to be involved in T3 because he no longer owned it. When Linda divorced him she got the rights to the Terminator franchise which she then sold for a nice pile of cash.

Anyways. Linda is a better actress but Lena is doing ok.
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 10:22 AM EDT
"Funny if she said that because James said he didnt want to be involved in T3 because he no longer owned it. When Linda divorced him she got the rights to the Terminator franchise which she then sold for a nice pile of cash.

Anyways. Linda is a better actress but Lena is doing ok."
That's why I said it speaks volumes about what she thinks of him outside of being a cheating, no good louse of an ex-husband! =)

She was approached to play Sarah in T3, but because James had nothing to do with it she bowed out. So, they wrote her out the only way they could... by killing her character off screen with some lame excuse.
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Shadoware
Shadoware
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 10:42 AM EDT
I think Linda was a more paranoic Sarah, Lena remenbers more the Sarah in the firs movie.
I thinks thats ok, u can speculate that Sarah was alleviated after T2, because she got off that clinic and thought for some time that future was changed , then she could have stoped workouts a little, and she gets more equilibrated.
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Chopped_Liver
Chopped_Liver
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 6:43 PM EDT
"I think the slightly psycho Sarah Connor from T2 would not be good in a TV series on a weekly basis. Besides I think she was in a particular spot in T2 and people are wrong to think that that's how she would be well after those events.

Anyway I think this has little to do with who the better actress is and everything to do with people clinging to the original simply because it's the original.."
Yes, psycho Sarah would get old in a series. Even in T2 she had to learn to chill a little. There's no way I'd criticize Lena's abilities. I think its more because of direction and writing that she comes off a little bland, and maybe a lack of time in the shortened season. And, yes, because Linda Hamilton is such an icon of the Terminator movies.
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K8ie
K8ie
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 7:53 PM EDT
How many times are we going to see people making invidious comparisons between these two actresses? Linda was great in the movie. Lena's great in the series but comparing the two is stupid - movies and ongoing TV series have fundamentally different structures, which leads to different ways of presenting character and creating performances. In the TSCC, TPTB including Lena Headey, need to create a character that can grow and evolve and still be interesting over the course of dozens of hours. Linda Hamilton and James Cameron were creating a character that would be engrossing for two and a half hours. I think both actresses are talent women and every time someone posts a "vs." thread, it makes *me* want to go blow up a building. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
K8ie
K8ie
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 7:55 PM EDT
Also making me want to blow up a building - not being able to edit the bad grammar in my posts. Sorry folks - that should read "talented women". Do you find this valuable?    
LiquidMetal
LiquidMetal
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 8:03 PM EDT
"How many times are we going to see people making invidious comparisons between these two actresses? Linda was great in the movie. Lena's great in the series but comparing the two is stupid - movies and ongoing TV series have fundamentally different structures, which leads to different ways of presenting character and creating performances. In the TSCC, TPTB including Lena Headey, need to create a character that can grow and evolve and still be interesting over the course of dozens of hours. Linda Hamilton and James Cameron were creating a character that would be engrossing for two and a half hours. I think both actresses are talent women and every time someone posts a "vs." thread, it makes *me* want to go blow up a building. "
Actually, your icon has the best Sarah, but she was making a bunch of alien movies. :-)

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RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 8:03 PM EDT
"Also making me want to blow up a building "
lol u paranoid psycho terrorist!

but i dont really mind that they killed sarah off in T-3. everything in the movies always says john connor (not sarah) was the leader. in T-3, john was like mid 20s at least, how much longer would u want sarah to be the leader of him? i mean its only logical to make sarah disappear before the resistance begin its fight right?
schmacky is gonna poke holes in that logic =}
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K8ie
K8ie
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 8:05 PM EDT
"Actually, your icon has the best Sarah, but she was making a bunch of alien movies. :-)

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LOL - love it!
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K8ie
K8ie
RE: Lena Headey vs Linda Hamilton
Mar 29 2008, 8:09 PM EDT
"in T-3, john was like mid 20s at least, how much longer would u want sarah to be the leader of him? i mean its only logical to make sarah disappear before the resistance begin its fight right?
schmacky is gonna poke holes in that logic =}"
Since John's all of 16 in TSCC, I think Sarah being the boss of him throughout the potential life of the series (assuming it doesn't have an ER-like run of 15 seasons) would work. The tension between John's growth into the leader that Sarah's trained him to be and Sarah's desire to keep John alive and safe as possible is a great source of drama on its own.
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