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SilentHer0 |
Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Feb 29 2008, 11:33 PM EST I've noticed throughout the show that Cameron's only loyal ally/friend is John, because there exists some hostility between Sarah and her, Sarah threatened to take her apart. Furthermore, Derek would kill Cameron if he got the chance and I'm pretty sure outside those two John is Cameron's only true friend that she has. Its a silly question but its something I've noticed between the inter character relationships. 9 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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avril33 avril33 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 4:42 AM EST This is a specious question, as machines don't "need" friends; they need maintenance crews, or in the case of sophisticated machinery like Terminator robots, probably not even that. But for the benefit of us humans with hearts that bleed over such issues, thank God for Cameron she has John. he is clearly developing a romantic attraction for her polysilicon and submicron interconnect. If he marries her, she may need to have somebody "give her away" at the wedding. Enter Woody allen's Domesticon robot, her long lost dad perhaps, whom she ran away from because he was such a bozo. Like the Tube ads say "...so you came to London to escape your unglamourous past" (read parents) 1 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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mitx |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 5:12 AM EST "This is a specious question, as machines don't "need" friends; they need maintenance crews, or in the case of sophisticated machinery like Terminator robots, probably not even that. But for the benefit of us humans with hearts that bleed over such issues, thank God for Cameron she has John. he is clearly developing a romantic attraction for her polysilicon and submicron interconnect.Every thread I goto your posts are there! I dont get half the stuff your talking about. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 1:42 PM EST I think if Cameron stops acting so secretive and gives Sarah a reason to trust her more, then there would be a paradigm shift in their relationship. True friends can open up to one another and Cameron hasn't learned that. Arnold in T2 gives Sarah something she can hang her hat on. He is good and honorable to John, and deeply interested in him and their mission and that leads Sarah to feel this Terminator could be the perfect father figure. It's touching, really. If Cameron showed she was worthy of her friendship and love, maybe she'd take to John and Cameron falling for each other. Right now anyway, poor Cameron has ZERO friends except for John. If she keeps responding like she did to the girls primping in the bathroom then they may run her up on the flag pole at school or put KICK ME post-it notes on her back! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Sully889 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 2:22 PM EST "If she keeps responding like she did to the girls primping in the bathroom then they may run her up on the flag pole at school or put KICK ME post-it notes on her back!There would be a lot of kids in crutches if they did what the notes said, hahaha. The only people that Cameron is consistantly in contact with are John, Sarah, and Derek. She hasn't spent enough time around other people to get to know them. Maybe that kid at school is a possible candidate, I think his name is Morris. He probably just wants to make love to her anyways. Do you find this valuable? |
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rockywhite |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 3:14 PM EST "There would be a lot of kids in crutches if they did what the notes said, hahaha.could you just see cameron walking around with a kick me sign on here back and she would not know wtf to do? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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fedchief fedchief |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 3:17 PM EST i can imagine everybody in school having crutches. that would be hilarious. cameron would be the only one walking without them. hmm...red flags from the government other than FBI? Do you find this valuable? |
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T100010 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 3:34 PM EST This is a good post you put up slientHer0 you make a good point it would be nice if we all can see cameron open up and reveal a little more of herself to this kid at school morris but i thing future john sent her there for other reasons besides protecting him maybe to learn a little more about us? But i believe john is her true friend remeber in the episode where she is getting bang up by the terminator who was tying to kill derek sara and derek tryed to make john leave cameron behide he wouldn't leave her that says something about there relationship. Monday is the 2hr season finale i hope they have some good sences together i love when they in the same freme becouse i know it will be a cool dialouge. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 4:50 PM EST Looks like Morris might be the third Stooge in a triumvirate of comedy for season 2! Cameron is Moe, John is Larry, and Morris is Curly! So, is Derrek then considered the tag-along Shemp? Do you find this valuable? |
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whackman |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 5:06 PM EST ~reality check~ she's a robot. she cant have a friend. ppl can be friends to her, but she cant truly be a friend back. so its kinda dumb to think about this. and she wont date John. no no never. John knows she is a robot. he will be weirded out a bout it. he might be attracted to that EMO girl at school. the writers even put them in the same chem class. watch as the plot thickens... 0 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SilentHer0 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 5:09 PM EST huh?...lol 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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creeperx7 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 5:17 PM EST ur right. cameron is the only one john can talk to. But theres a whole in the relationship, cameron can hear what johns saying, but never truly understand. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 7:15 PM EST Ahh, but maybe she will! 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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creeperx7 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 9:39 PM EST thats something to think about, but if cameron does break the boundries of robotics, the shows gonna have alot of explaining to do. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Timstuff |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 11:00 PM EST "ur right. cameron is the only one john can talk to. But theres a whole in the relationship, cameron can hear what johns saying, but never truly understand.""Never" is a rather strong word to use IMO, since the "ghost in the machine" concept has been with sci-fi for a very long time. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch to imagine Cameron developing feelings and a sense of morality in the future. Not immediately, but eventually. She is, after all, the most advanced cyborg ever created according to the promo materials. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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T-1976 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 1 2008, 11:42 PM EST She is programmed to befriend and protect John. She probably doesnt know what friendship is...only that she is there to do a mission. However, because she is "different" perhaps she will "learn" something about their relationship and she can put that in her databank and use it to understand human relationships better. Perhaps that's why she is different...I think she does have a "learn" function. Interact with humans and expand what is on her hard drive. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Vargess |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 2 2008, 12:11 AM EST "She is programmed to befriend and protect John. She probably doesnt know what friendship is...only that she is there to do a mission. However, because she is "different" perhaps she will "learn" something about their relationship and she can put that in her databank and use it to understand human relationships better.You see that in the previous episode where she is ballet dancing. She's developing her knowledge and skills, while learning what is to "live" She is in search of a soul now I think. Who you are as an individual helps shape and define your soul. Definition soul - 1. the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part. 4. the emotional part of human nature; the seat of the feelings or sentiments. 1. The animating and vital principle in humans, credited with the faculties of thought, action, and emotion and often conceived as an immaterial entity. None of which require an 'absolute' HUMAN characteristic. The saying "Selling your soul to the Devil" doesn't neccessarily mean you die, either. It defines WHO you are. Doesn't mean she understands it that way, but she has read the dictionary :) Do you find this valuable? |
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Coven |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 2 2008, 12:18 AM EST "You see that in the previous episode where she is ballet dancing. She's developing her knowledge and skills, while learning what is to "live" She is in search of a soul now I think. Who you are as an individual helps shape and define your soul.I don't know about "In search of a soul", but I do believe she is trying to become more "human". She clearly shows in her actions that she is trying to prove to John, Derek and Sarah that she is improving in her human characteristics. She seems to constantly want to prove herself, which in itself, is a human characteristic. It will be interesting to see where she goes from there. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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T-1976 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 2 2008, 6:21 PM EST I would say she's kinda like Pinnochio (without the lying and nose growing that is) He wanted to be a "real boy", perhaps Cameron is hoping/ wanting to be a "real girl" or at least just become more human like 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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T-1976 |
RE: Is John, Cameron's only true friend?
Mar 2 2008, 11:45 PM EST And also...I think she wants to be able to fit into human society better. And not just be known as a "relentless killing machine" Protecting John is certainly part of..or would be part of...that process. "Robot self improvement" ^_^ Do you find this valuable? |