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Sarah Connor Chronicles: Season 2 Predictions and Plot Danglers
Discussion: Theories on Cameron and the bar of coltran
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 Wild-Kat |
Theories on Cameron and the bar of coltran
Feb 5 2008, 1:42 AM EST Hey, any theories out there on what that bar of coltran was for in Cameron's bag at the end of the episode? 7 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Chi3000 |
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Feb 5 2008, 2:15 AM EST "Hey, any theories out there on what that bar of coltran was for in Cameron's bag at the end of the episode?"Possibly for use to repair her or even "create" her. 5 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Merkrius |
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Feb 5 2008, 4:40 AM EST I think she didn't expect to see it processed into a bar already. Maybe Skynets agents are trying to accelerate the timeline by creating materials and technologies earlier. T-800's would be far more dangerous earlier in the war than the original rubber skinned 600 series Kyle Reese described. 5 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Crevek Crevek |
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Feb 5 2008, 10:28 AM EST Coltan is a very essential metal in the creating of capacitors(something I didn't know) so I believe it isn't about it being a bar so early. More likely she is human. What? My reasoning is that her showing greed(taking it for herself rather than letting it fall into the sea) is a showing of her humanness. Or possibly she got it for John. A gift to him because she thinks it is a tight present. So rather than quote too much about Columbite tantalite because I know nothing of it I'll need to end in saying tantalum and niobium show up together. (They are named after Tantalus and Niobe, two more things I don't know anything about) 3 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
 eightthegreat |
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Feb 5 2008, 12:06 PM EST It is for use as a anti-terminator knightstick! 4 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Silentnarcotic |
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Feb 5 2008, 12:49 PM EST I'm surprised Cameron didn't take any face damage from getting hit by the bar 8 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Shrapnel20 Shrapnel20 |
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Feb 5 2008, 12:53 PM EST Well if you remember the purpose of the Terminator in stealing the Coltran in the first place, I think the easiest theory to guess on is that Cameron will keep it in case she is badly damaged and needs to repair herself. Another possibility is that she will use it to upgrade herself and make herself stronger. My last theory comes from the post of Chi3000. Perhaps now that they stole the Coltran and ensured Skynet would not use it, the timeline has changed and Cameron is afraid she will not be created in the future as she said that bunker was where she was built. Perhaps she will indeed build herself so she can go back to the past in the future. Hope that last sentence didn't make your head hurt. 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
 LadyTerm |
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Feb 5 2008, 12:56 PM EST She is saving it so she will be created from it in the future...CHicken and the egg thing. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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wolfenstien wolfenstien |
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Feb 5 2008, 1:05 PM EST "It is for use as a anti-terminator knightstick!"I was thinking along these lines... put it on a lathe, and cut it down to a ball bat... LOL Chicken egg thing seems about right.... 2 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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steveny steveny |
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Feb 5 2008, 1:17 PM EST She's planning to make a terminator baby for her and john... awww... precious! 2 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Mebaman |
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Feb 5 2008, 1:23 PM EST "I'm surprised Cameron didn't take any face damage from getting hit by the bar"Having spent most of its budget in the first three episodes, the makeup department's running low on funds (also consider the fact that few members of the target audience want to see Summer Glau's mug roughed up). Also note that the warehouse / bomb shelter sets appear recycled from earlier episodes. Be prepared to see more scenes in upcoming installments that are filmed in various warehouses as this set gets recycled over and over again. 1 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
 jasonosborne79 |
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Feb 5 2008, 1:38 PM EST Given that they're in a new time line, I doubt she will cease to exist; either it's a keepsake or she plans to keep it in case her endo-skeleton needs repair. But, she would need manufacturing facilities and specialized equipment to effect any major repairs. If they succeed in destroying Skynet, then Cameron will be the last of her kind. On the other hand, maybe that metal will become her. 7 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Crevek Crevek |
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Feb 5 2008, 2:08 PM EST Coltan alloys really do exist and really are what the show says they are... Interesting Coltan has a density of about 8.1 (grams per cubic centimeter)(8100 grams per liter 8100 grams=8.1kg 8.1kg=16.8lbs). Each of those bars were approximately 10cmX10cmX100cm (ten liters)(about 4inX4inX36in)(168lbs)and a bit heavier than either human(110 and 130)(how in the hell did John hit that one guy with it ?) I think she wants to make John a baby! Wait, I already said something.... Oh well 4 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
 shiftyo's |
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Feb 5 2008, 2:30 PM EST "She is saving it so she will be created from it in the future...CHicken and the egg thing."I have to agree here alittle bit. she says that she was created at that paticular facility and if you remember at the end of T2, Terminator say i can not self terminate, so she probably couldn't destroy everything because in doing so she would be destroying herslf. tho this kinda contradicts the whole point of movies and the show, cuz if they stop skynet non of them will be created. maybe this develop into a confusion in her programing and we'll start to see more of a human awarness emerge from it 7 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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jasonosborne79 |
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Feb 5 2008, 2:41 PM EST "I have to agree here alittle bit. she says that she was created at that paticular facility and if you remember at the end of T2, Terminator say i can not self terminate, so she probably couldn't destroy everything because in doing so she would be destroying herslf. tho this kinda contradicts the whole point of movies and the show, cuz if they stop skynet non of them will be created. maybe this develop into a confusion in her programing and we'll start to see more of a human awarness emerge from it"That's assuming that they're in the exact same time line that Cameron came from and that you can't change anything. Don't forget, John once told Sarah that "the future is not set. There's no fate but what you make." It's conceivable that what John meant by those words was that *their* future, the moment that they're in, isn't set. Cameron may know things about the time she came from, and things about John and Sarah, but she has no more idea of exactly what will happen next anymore than John or Sarah. Their actions, along with the other Resistance soldiers and Terminators could cause Judgement Day to happen on time, or sooner, or later, or never. Otherwise, the hell is the point of skipping over eight years, aiding Sarah and John in hunting Terminators and going after Skynet? 6 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
 Pyus |
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Feb 5 2008, 2:49 PM EST She is not saving it so she can be created, It looks like this show is following the complete loop theroy of time travel. it states once you leave your time and rematerialize in another time thats it all ties to your previous time have been severed and you are now independant from it being a part of the current time you are in. because of that even if they destroy skynet cameron will still exist because she is now seperate from her original timeline. if you argue the chicken and the egg theory then by destroying skynet john will never be born because reese would not have been sent back. 13 out of 13 found this valuable. Do you? |
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shiftyo's |
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Feb 5 2008, 3:06 PM EST good point I hope they show why she took it in the show and dont just leave it unexplained. also the whole time travel thing gives me a headake so many things that dont make sense but i guess thats why we cant actually time travel yet. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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superbovine superbovine |
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Feb 5 2008, 3:16 PM EST I believe the coltran bar at the end of the episode is used by the writers to help humanize Cameron. To me at least, it is like Cameron holding a little piece of herself, or what she would be if skynet never launches the attack. According an earlier epside skynet will happen when the machines are able to create a better version of themselves. Maybe Cameron will realize if she does not let it happen she will never exist i.e. I think therefore I am. Then it goes back to the chicken and egg thing as pyus said. 6 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dallas_112678 dallas_112678 |
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Feb 5 2008, 4:13 PM EST They dont explain why she took it because it was at the very end of the show, and they want people to wonder why she took it, so theyll watch again next week to try and find out. 6 out of 8 found this valuable. Do you? |
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dallas_112678 dallas_112678 |
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Feb 5 2008, 4:26 PM EST "They dont explain why she took it because it was at the very end of the show, and they want people to wonder why she took it, so theyll watch again next week to try and find out."sorry my ^^^^ post was in response to someone i forgot to quote. 2 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |